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Immacallam in dá thúarad‘The colloquy of the two sages’

• Medieval Irish literature about poets, Medieval Irish wisdom literature, Ulster Cycle

Early Irish wisdom text

Manuscripts

The oldest manuscripts, used by Stokes:

• Dublin, Trinity College, MS 1339 (H 2. 18) = Book of Leinster [s. xii²]

  pp. 186–188

  This copy breaks off halfway through the text (§ 233).
• Oxford, Bodleian Library, MS Rawlinson B 502 2, ff. 19–89 = Lebar Glinne Dá Locha (?) [1125 x 1150]

  ff. 60a 2 – 62b 2
• Dublin, Trinity College, MS 1318 15, cols. 500-572 = YBL section [1408]

  pp. 241b–251b cols 549–569

Other copies

• Dublin, Trinity College, MS 1316 4, pp. 71-86 [s. xiv (?)]

  p. 71ff
• Dublin, Trinity College, MS 1308 1 [s. xv?]
• Dublin, Trinity College, MS 1337 8, pp. 152–172

  pp. 152–157
• Dublin, Trinity College, MS 1337 18, pp. 542–564 [c. s. xiv]

  pp. 542 (part of the introduction), 543–555 (different text)
• Dublin, Trinity College, MS 1337 20, pp. 629–660 [s. xvi (?)]

  pp. 656–660

  Imperfect at the beginning.
• London, British Library, MS Egerton 88 [c. 1564]

  ff. 76b–79
• Dublin, Trinity College, MS 1319 vol. 2, pp. 172-187, 192-194 = fragment of the Book of Lecan [xvⁱⁿ]

  pp. 185–187 and 192–193
• Dublin, Royal Irish Academy, MS 23 Q 6 (1243) [s. xv + s. xvi]

  p. 53

  Fragment

See also results from manuscript descriptions

Textual relationships

Related: O’Clery’s glossary (Foclóir na Sanasán Nua)O’Clery’s glossary (Foclóir na Sanasán Nua)

An Irish glossary compiled by Mícheál Ó Cléirigh. who dedicated it to Baothghalach Mac Aodhagáin.

Associated items

Trédhe nach fuilngeand rígh réilTrédhe nach fuilngeand rígh réil

Medieval Irish prophetic poem (72 qq) attributed in the final stanza to Bécán Bec mac Dé, better known elsewhere as the prophet Bec mac Dé. According to Eleanor Knott, it is a composite work, which may be regarded as falling into at least two sections (A = qq. 1–13, B = qq. 14-72).

Classification

Medieval Irish literature about poetsMedieval Irish literature about poets
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Medieval Irish wisdom literatureMedieval Irish wisdom literature
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Ulster Cycle
Ulster Cycle

id. 1797

Sources

Primary sources Text editions and/or modern translations – in whole or in part – along with publications containing additions and corrections, if known. Diplomatic editions, facsimiles and digital image reproductions of the manuscripts are not always listed here but may be found in entries for the relevant manuscripts. For historical purposes, early editions, transcriptions and translations are not excluded, even if their reliability does not meet modern standards.

[ed.] [tr.] Stokes, Whitley [ed. and tr.], “The colloquy of the two sages”, Revue Celtique 26 (1905): 4–64, 284–285 (corrigenda).

Internet Archive: <link> Internet Archive: <link> Gallica: <link>

Based on LL, Rawlinson B 502 and YBL.

[tr.] Draak, Maartje, and Frida de Jong, De lastige schare, gevolgd door vijf anekdoten over dichtergeleerden, Amsterdam: Meulenhoff, 1990.  

Dutch translations of: Tromdámh Guaire, based on the edition of Maud Joynt (1931) -- three entries from Sanas Chormaic (Mug Eme, Lethec and Gaire) -- Passages from Immacallam in dá Thúarad (Colloquy of the two sages) -- Passages from Scéla Mongáin ⁊ Echdach Rígéicis (Why Mongán was deprived of noble issue).

101–105 Selected passages, in Dutch translation, from the prose introduction.

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April 2011, last updated: May 2021